Talk:Ionian Nebula/Archive 1

The Great Exodus? Not.

It is not true that "Lieutenant Felix Gaeta discovers that a nova occurred in the Ionian system which was seen around the same time as the Great Exodus." The Great Exodus was about 2,000 years ago, "around the time the 13 tribes first left Kobol." The Ionian nova was "seen 4,000 years ago, around about when the Temple might have been built," "which lines up with the exodus of the Thirteenth Tribe."

It's kind of besides the point, because you've obviously made a 2,000 year blunder, but I think this is how the scriptures make sense:

The 13th tribe left Kobol on a journey to Earth 4,000 years ago. (They, or somebody, soon resettles Kobol.)

The 13 tribes left Kobol for the Colonies 2,000 years ago.

The 13th tribe is all 12 tribes combined. And it is the rag-tag fleet presently; what happened 4,000 years ago is happening again now.

This is a bit speculative, and so should not go onto any pages, but I'm just trying to show you how it could make sense what they say on the show: the 13th tribe left Kobol 4,000 years ago (on a journey to Earth), and also the 13 tribes left Kobol 2,000 years ago (for the 12 Colonies.)

--MHall 10:54, 21 February 2007 (CST)

I fixed it. That's also how the timeline article explains it. Anyways, they moved the date back on the show, and for me it doesn't make that much sense to interpret so much into Elosha's one little comment.

Of course there is also the possibility of them coming from Earth to Kobol around 4000 years ago and then leaving Kobol again, neatly explaining why the dates go backwards farther out. --Serenity 11:11, 21 February 2007 (CST)

Nebula and Earth

I see Serenity removed a note about the relationship between the nebula and Earth with the comment "We don't really know anything of how Starbuck went to Earth, or if it's even true. Or if maybe the Cylons went there and they have way better FTL technology."

I'm a bit confused by this comment. What I added was strictly stuff from the show. That Earth is a modest round trip using whatever jump technology that Starbuck has, and that she also feels it is a reasonable trip with fleet technology under her guidance. All that is based on what Starbuck says. She worries we don't know if it's true, and that is the case, but surely we're not trying to make a rule that you can't add things a character has said because they might be a lie. At best one would want to note that there is reason to doubt what they say.

The other note that was deleted simply indicated that Earth was shown to be in very roughly the same region of the Galaxy as the nebula, and that is indeed the case, it's shown quite clearly as the last 4 seconds of the episode, so I'm at a loss for why it would be deleted.

Short of making arguments that Starbuck (or whoever it is) is lying, I think it is Canon that she made a round trip to Earth (using her better jump tech) and that she can take the fleet there. So any other reasons why this should be deleted?