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| I see this template is in use on [[Adama (TOS)]] ... just an FYI that I see the image ''underneath'' the main logo, rather than over it. This is on Internet Explorer 6 (which I have to use at work) ... I'll try it with Firefox when I get home. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 15:19, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| : What style are you using, Jubal? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:23, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::Sorry, Joe, you caught me leaving work. I'm using bsgbook. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 20:51, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::Oh.... I was having the same issue as JH, but I use the Monobook skin. It seems to work ok with the BSGbook skin. (This is one of the reasons why I run the "alternate" skin... to check for bugs.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:30, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::: Ok, try it now with the bsgmonobook skin -- I forgot to update the z-index value in the "p-logo" class on that skin. (Note you will likely have to do a hard refresh...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:35, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::Much better. Silly z-axis. 3D web... what are we coming to? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:48, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::Very nice. Me likey. -[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 19:53, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| On my Firefox it works fine. [[User:OTW|OTW]] 15:21, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| Working fine for me on Firefox as well. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 20:51, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| Works on Safari. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:31, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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| NOT showing in IE6 on my works laptop. But it was working on IE7 and FF on my home computer. I'm guessing we need to add something to the IEfixes.css files? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:43, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :never cause it will get overwriten during updates. bsgbook.css and bsgmonobook.css maybe. ;-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 06:27, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::I was always told to modify the fixes css if there are ever any problems in IE versions. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 07:33, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::oh. ok. send code. i update. or better yet. contact joe ask him for password. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 07:35, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| I've been working on adding this to TOS pages. Got every episode and I think most of the main characters. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 07:13, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :You might have jumped the gun a little bit as others were still discussing the particulars, but in practice it looks very good, and the brighter badge right over the Bird fits well. If there is any issue, I figure we can disable the template, and it will be ignored on any page. Nice work. I'd rather have some boldness in ventures that keep some love on TOS articles (thus the purpose of the project). -- [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:42, 18 April 2007 (CDT) <sup>([[User_Talk:Spencerian|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian|Contribs]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian|WonderNumbers]])</sup>
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| ::Sorry on jumping the gun. I just counted and I've done 100 TOS pages out of 185. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:04, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::Uh... better count again:
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| :::TOS (638 members)
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| :::There are 185 TOS pages on the first page of the category. Heck, there are 152 members of Characters (TOS) alone. That's a massive project, and I wasn't (and am still not) sure if it is quite yet ready for going live yet... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:22, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::I don't think its a good idea to have begun rolling this out to be honest. Its still in testing stages right now. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 08:36, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::When it comes to going live we could get a bot to add the template to all pages in the TOS category. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 08:36, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::Oh, uh, I didn't realize that that was only the 1st page. Well, uh, I still did 100! And I think the fact that it works so well on the pages I put it on is good support for it going live. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:38, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::I really like it and think it looks really cool, I just think its best to wait until we get it working properly before putting it on all the pages. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 08:41, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::If you (BklynBruzer) are running for the Mopper of the Week award, I think you've got it by now, but I agree it's probably better to do the rest by bot. Shane, is such a thing possible? (i.e. add "<nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki>" to all pages in [[:Category:TOS]]?) --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:45, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::I'm just trying to do my part, but I fully support the bot measure. My clicking finger is getting tired. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:49, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::::The problem with the way people have been adding {{tl|TOS}} in the articles so far is that its resulting in two line breaks at the bottom of the page before the categories box. To make it work more smoothly the bot should add it next to the cat bit as follows <nowiki>[[Category:TOS]]{{TOS}}</nowiki>. [[Aurora (TOS)|Example with whitespace]] / [[Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I|Example without]]. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 08:55, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::::Ah, what I've been doing (As evidenced on the Aurora page) is just pasting it in at the bottom. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:00, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| Good points, all. Let's stop manual entries of this template for now, assess any problems, then roll out any remaining changes by bot once things are ready (that includes me, too). We don't need to break pages with our enthusiasm. -- [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:08, 18 April 2007 (CDT) <sup>([[User_Talk:Spencerian|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian|Contribs]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian|WonderNumbers]])</sup>
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| :Minor manipulation of the template has removed one of the blank linespaces. Perhaps that will suffice? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 09:09, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::Catrope removed the other. I think we're good now. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 10:48, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::Cool --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 11:45, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::I say fire up the bots and roll it out.{{unsigned|BklynBruzer}}
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| :::::Yes.. the bot can do that. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:04, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::I know you are keen to roll this out but its not ready yet and requires more testing before going ahead with anything. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 17:05, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::::Yes, let's not jump the gun. There's no rush here. We still need to work out a final version of the image for this template, as well as work out the IE6 fix. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::::Well, I think the 100+ pages I added it to where it is working perfectly seems to indicate that it's been tested, and the IE6 fix should be done, yes. As for the image, I think the current one is good. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:11, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :::::::::But it '''doesn't''' work perfectly let and has not yet been tested in other browsers such as Opera either. As the majority of the visitors use IE I think its only fair that it works for them before rolling out across the board. As for the image, I only whipped it up quickly and I don't know what the consensus on it is yet. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 17:16, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::::::You oughta read my comment better - I'm saying that IE6 should be fixed and we should get consensus on the image first. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:19, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| ::::::::::: I did read your comment. You claimed that on the pages its been added to its working "perfectly" when its clearly not. That is why it has not yet been put forward to the bots "to do" list just yet. There is still work to be done on several css files and possibly to the image first. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 17:32, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| Regarding the image... I rather like it. However, it needs to be big enough to eclipse the current logo, and have wording on it. If the wording could be circular, much like the current logo we have, in the same typeface. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:28, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :The problem arises with the slight variations in how browsers parse the css meaning that the position in IE is slightly different to that of Firefox etc. If you wanted something to completely overlap the current logo then it would have to be much bigger and would also have to link back to the home page as normal rather than linking to the TOS page --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 17:32, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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| :: Yeah, it'd have to be bigger. Also, modifying the template to link back to the main page isn't an issue. It's just creating the actual logo and getting the images to work properly on IE6, and doing testing on Opera. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:45, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
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