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Color scheme

Joe,

First of all, kudos on starting the wiki! This will be an excellent resource and community, and I'm ecstatic to see it catch on so quickly. The color scheme, while definitely striking, can be a little hard on the eyes for some people, myself included. Changing the skin under preferences helps with the white-on-black text, but all the boilerplate tables retain their FG and BG colors (I guess they're controlled by the individual templates, not by CSS). Is there any way around this problem? I don't know enough about Wiki protocol to determine whether templates can also be driven by CSS. If not, perhaps a discussion should be started about modifying the color palette altogether. I personally would love to see an option for a more Colonial-Fleet-themed palette, with shades of gunmetal gray.

Thanks! -- Mayosolo 17:43, 18 January 2006 (EST)

I bet they can be CSS-ified. Rather than giving them colors in the template directly, give them classes or ids and let the CSS file sort out what colors those mean. Now, I'm not certain that would work, since I've never worked with the MediaWIki software, but I get the impression that it's fairly robust with regard to things like this. --Day 18:02, 18 January 2006 (EST)

I can edit the templates to use CSS classes, and edit the stylesheet appropriately. If anyone can come up with alternate color schemes, please bring them to my attention and I'll see what I can whip up. -- Joe Beaudoin 22:55, 18 January 2006 (EST)

Awesome! Thanks, Joe. I can start developing the gray idea... as soon as I relearn CSS. Boy, it's been awhile. -- Mayosolo 00:57, 19 January 2006 (EST)

I may be wrong, but the way I read that, Joe wants colors (like #777777 for a grey, though a bland one) from us (though I like and use the black and red scheme). I think he can handle the CSSing. I could be misunderstanding him, though. If you want someone to do some grunt-work CSSing, Joe, lemme know. I know a thing or two about it. --Day 05:37, 19 January 2006 (EST)

Name Change

Joe, is it possible for you to change my username? Thanks --BMS 13:32, 28 January 2006 (EST)

Yes, it should be a relatively painless manner. What do you wish your user name changed to? -- Joe Beaudoin 21:39, 28 January 2006 (EST)

"Kraetos" would be great. Thanks! --BMS 23:24, 28 January 2006 (EST)

I would also like my name changed (as I mentioned on my talk page), to "The Merovingian" ("the" is required). If you can't have two words, use "The_Merovingian". --Ricimer 21:42, 28 January 2006 (EST)

CSS

SV and I got to talking about CSSing as it applies to skins here. I was wondering, since I know a thing or two (maybe three, but no more) about CSS, how you felt about handing out the .css files to be modified so we could use classes and ids rather than explicit colors for the various templates and boxes we've got around. If you'd rather do this yourself, that's fine, too. I just thought I'd offer/ask. --Day 15:38, 1 February 2006 (EST)

I'd have no problem in giving out the CSS sheets. Just mail me with the addresses you want the CSS files sent to and I'll send them out. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin 19:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Cite extensions

Joe, I'm not sure if you've seen the cite extension, but this would make it much easier to document our sources. --April Arcus 00:54, 2 February 2006 (EST)

I've been moseying around the extensions on the MediaWiki & Meta sites and happened upon this one as well; I even tried it on a test wiki I loaded on the server a few days ago. Unfortunately, it only works on the current unstable version of 1.6. (We use the 1.5 series, and I am not comfortable with loading anything that is in alpha stages at this time.) The extension does look cool, however, and would make our lives a lot easier, and I hope that once 1.6 hits stable we can go ahead an implement it on this wiki. -- Joe Beaudoin 09:15, 2 February 2006 (EST)

Are you certain? en.wikipedia.org seems to have the extension enabled. --April Arcus 10:29, 2 February 2006 (EST)

Wikipedia is running 1.6alpha of Mediawiki, while we're on 1.5.5 over here. --Steelviper 10:35, 2 February 2006 (EST)

All Wikimedia projects tend to run the experimental versions of the MediaWiki software. I really don't see the logic of it, but... -- Joe Beaudoin 11:30, 2 February 2006 (EST)

That's a neat feature. I'm patient enough to wait for someone else to get the bugs out, though. It will be needed here as the new show becomes not-so-new and mistakes crop up. --Spencerian 01:26, 3 February 2006 (EST)

Smaller Image

Joe, I've uploaded a smaller version of he BSG wiki image, so you can use it on the project pages. Most web browsers horribly pixelate images when scaled (see a project page for an example), using this smaller version will prevent that. The file is located at Image:BSG-WIKI-SM.png. [1] --BMS 18:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)

image

Moved from Joe's user page by Joe Beaudoin on 09:28, 7 February 2006 (EST).

I get some of my images from http://galactica.emedian.net/. --DrBat 08:24, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Name Change (Part deux)

Joe, I hate to be a bother, but I am politely reminding you of my request for a name change. If there is a problem, could you let me know? Thanks! --BMS 22:12, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Slander

Joe, I tried to use the "e-mail this user" in the toolbox but it said I need to be logged in with a valid e-mail address in my preferences, which I do so I don't know why I couldn't email you. So I'll have to ask you this here. Feel free to delete this after you read it.

I would hope that the Battlestar Wiki strives to be free of slander so I am requesting you remove the parts of Merv's posting in this thread:

http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources_talk:Correspondence_with_Jim_Iaccino

Where he claims that I called Jim's workplace ( I did not and he admits he was "voicing it as a possibility as I have my suspicions. It's actually probably nothing.")

Where he claims I PM'd him an abusive message (I have never PM'd him.)

Where he claims I expressed a desire to "anally rape" him (I certainly have never expressed such a desire.)

Where he claims I sent YOU a threatening e-mail (I'm sure you realise this is false.)

These claims are clearly slander and have no place on your website. The fact that he made up a fictitious PM ((the PM "yeah I am Ribzy you frakhead and I'm going to crucify you!", was a dead giveaway...) Should tell you the depths he will sink to support his slander.

Thank you, take care and control.

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-Hi. I hear you're the guy running this Wiki. I wondered if it would be possible to have the Format broken links preference (misc. settings) default to unset? I keep running into broken links because of silly typo's (Carpica instead of Caprica for example) and with this preference off it becomes a lot easier to spot these. Oh, and thanks for setting all this up btw.
+: ''For discussions prior to September 2, 2005, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin&oldid=12218 click here].''
+: ''For discussions prior to October 17, 2005, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin&oldid=16737 click here].''
+: ''For discussions prior to December 18, 2005, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin&oldid=19887 click here].''
+: ''For discussions prior to February 4, 2006, [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin&oldid=29465 click here].''
---[[User:WouterCoene|WouterCoene]] 09:04, 26 Jan 2005 (EST)
-== No Problem! ==
-Hi there,
+== Color scheme ==
-No problem in changing the config.  It does help out!
+Joe,
-Thanks for contributing, as well as your kind comments regarding the wiki!
+First of all, kudos on starting the wiki!  This will be an excellent resource and community, and I'm ecstatic to see it catch on so quickly.
+The color scheme, while definitely striking, can be a little hard on the eyes for some people, myself included.  Changing the skin under preferences helps with the white-on-black text, but all the boilerplate tables retain their FG and BG colors (I guess they're controlled by the individual templates, not by CSS).  Is there any way around this problem?  I don't know enough about Wiki protocol to determine whether templates can also be driven by CSS.  If not, perhaps a discussion should be started about modifying the color palette altogether.  I personally would love to see an option for a more Colonial-Fleet-themed palette, with shades of gunmetal gray.
-Feel free to shoot any suggestions my way any time.
+Thanks! -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 17:43, 18 January 2006 (EST)
---[[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 06:21, 29 Jan 2005 (EST)
+: I bet they can be CSS-ified. Rather than giving them colors in the template directly, give them classes or ids and let the CSS file sort out what colors those mean. Now, I'm not ''certain'' that would work, since I've never worked with the MediaWIki software, but I get the impression that it's fairly robust with regard to things like this. --[[User:Day|Day]] 18:02, 18 January 2006 (EST)
-==Pictures==
+:: I can edit the templates to use CSS classes, and edit the stylesheet appropriately.  If anyone can come up with alternate color schemes, please bring them to my attention and I'll see what I can whip up. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:55, 18 January 2006 (EST)
-Hello Joe,
-You state that everything on your wiki is GNU FDL which means that somebody can copy the pictures as long as they attribute it to your site, Being an old hand in picturediscussions at nl:wikipedia I do not dare to import your pictures, although I would love some for the BG articles I am doing in Dutch. Can you please elaborate on the issue a bit for me (praying to the lords of kobol I can use some) [[User:Waerth|Waerth]] 14:52, 3 Feb 2005 (EST)
+::: Awesome!  Thanks, Joe.  I can start developing the gray idea... as soon as I relearn CSS.  Boy, it's been awhile. -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:57, 19 January 2006 (EST)
-== Regarding Licensing (Images, et al) ==
+:::: I may be wrong, but the way I read that, Joe wants colors (like #777777 for a grey, though a bland one) from us (though I like and use the black and red scheme). I think he can handle the CSSing. I could be misunderstanding him, though. If you want someone to do some grunt-work CSSing, Joe, lemme know. I know a thing or two about it. --[[User:Day|Day]] 05:37, 19 January 2006 (EST)
-Actually, having reviewed the GFDL license, I've decided to go towards the Creative Commons License.
+== Name Change ==
-I made this decision after taking a look at the [http://www.memory-alpha.org Memory Alpha] website and the license they used (which is CCL).  I also thoroughly read the GFDL, which didn't state anything about images or fair use under American law.
+Joe, is it possible for you to change my username? Thanks --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 13:32, 28 January 2006 (EST)
+: Yes, it should be a relatively painless manner.  What do you wish your user name changed to? -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:39, 28 January 2006 (EST)
-I'll write a more detailed explanation later on.  Maybe Saturday... but anyway, here's my official position on the images:
+:: "Kraetos" would be great. Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 23:24, 28 January 2006 (EST)
-Images are fair use.  That means episode caps, images, and soundbites, can be used, as so long as
+::I would also like my name changed (as I mentioned on my talk page), to "The Merovingian" ("the" is required).  If you can't have two words, use "The_Merovingian".  --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:42, 28 January 2006 (EST)
-* credit is given to the original source;
+== CSS ==
-* no one makes financial profit from the images use;
-* and are not used heavily (we try to use 2 to 3 images max on any one entry, for example).
-In essence, fair use is applied when the image is copyrighted and is for educational use.
+[[User:Steelviper|SV]] and I got to talking about [[User talk:Steelviper/CommunityPortal#COlor Scheme|CSSing as it applies to skins here]]. I was wondering, since I know a thing or two (maybe three, but no more) about CSS, how you felt about handing out the .css files to be modified so we could use classes and ids rather than explicit colors for the various templates and boxes we've got around. If you'd rather do this yourself, that's fine, too. I just thought I'd offer/ask. --[[User:Day|Day]] 15:38, 1 February 2006 (EST)
+: I'd have no problem in giving out the CSS sheets.  Just [mailto:joebeaudoin@joebeaudoin.net mail me] with the addresses you want the CSS files sent to and I'll send them out. :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)
---[[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 00:32, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)
+==Cite extensions==
-==Centurion vs. Centurian==
+Joe, I'm not sure if you've seen the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php cite extension], but this would make it much easier to document our sources. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 00:54, 2 February 2006 (EST)
-Hi, Joe. Have you had a chance yet to check the spelling on the DVDs? (''As I own the TOS DVDs, I'll take a look into them to see what the spelling is. From what I remember, it is usually "centurion" as in the centurions from Rome. -- Joe Beaudoin 22:34, 26 Apr 2005'') -- [[User:RexCutter]] [[User talk:RexCutter|(talk)]] 19 May 2005
+: I've been moseying around the extensions on the MediaWiki & Meta sites and happened upon this one as well; I even tried it on a test wiki I loaded on the server a few days ago.  Unfortunately, it only works on the current unstable version of 1.6. (We use the 1.5 series, and I am not comfortable with loading anything that is in alpha stages at this time.) The extension does look cool, however, and would make our lives a lot easier, and I hope that once 1.6 hits stable we can go ahead an implement it on this wiki. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:15, 2 February 2006 (EST)
-: Not yet.  That kind of went on the backburner for various issues came up.  I'll try to get to it later on today... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 06:43, 20 May 2005 (EDT)
+::Are you certain? en.wikipedia.org seems to have the extension enabled. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 10:29, 2 February 2006 (EST)
-==Template:IPA==
+:::Wikipedia is running 1.6alpha of Mediawiki, while we're on 1.5.5 over here. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:35, 2 February 2006 (EST)
-This is not my specialty, but do you think you could bring over Template:IPA from Wikipedia for pronunciations? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 15:45, 5 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+:::All Wikimedia projects tend to run the experimental versions of the MediaWiki software. I really don't see the logic of it, but... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:30, 2 February 2006 (EST)
-: Sure thing. The template is now online. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 20:22, 6 Aug 2005 (EDT)
-:: Works great, thanks. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:58, 7 Aug 2005 (EDT)
-== Thanks ==
+::::That's a neat feature. I'm patient enough to wait for someone else to get the bugs out, though. It will be needed here as the new show becomes not-so-new and mistakes crop up. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:26, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-Hey Joe, this is [[User:Zarek Rocks]], I just wanted to thank you for setting this BSG wiki thing up.  It looks like it was a lot of work on your part and I wanted to let you know I really appreciate it.  I'm still trying to figure out all of the intricacies but am starting to get the hang of it, I think.  Thanks again.
+== Smaller Image ==
-== Acc. Deletion ==
+Joe, I've uploaded a smaller version of he BSG wiki image, so you can use it on the project pages. Most web browsers horribly pixelate images when scaled (see a project page for an example), using this smaller version will prevent that. The file is located at Image:BSG-WIKI-SM.png. [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:BSG-WIKI_SM.png] --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 18:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)
-Thank you for leaving me message in my talk. Current status is that, I have theese two profiles here: (it's their usernames)
+==image==
+: ''Moved from [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe's user page]] by [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] on 09:28, 7 February 2006 (EST).''
-* [[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]]
+I get some of my images from http://galactica.emedian.net/. --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 08:24, 7 February 2006 (EST)
-* Lordhp
-I would like to keep up the [[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] account, and '''delete "Lordhp"''' account.
+== Name Change (Part deux) ==
-Original Version: [[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] 15:13, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+Joe, I hate to be a bother, but I am politely reminding you of my [[User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin#Name_Change|request]] for a name change. If there is a problem, could you let me know? Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 22:12, 7 February 2006 (EST)
-Edit because of changing my mind: [[User:Pavel Ptáček|Pavel Ptáček]] 06:10, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+== Slander ==
-==Moving Pages==
+Joe, I tried to use the "e-mail this user" in the toolbox but it said I need to be logged in with a valid e-mail address in my preferences, which I do so I don't know why I couldn't email you.  So I'll have to ask you this here.  Feel free to delete this after you read it.
-Joe, there are some pages that need to be moved around. Is there a better way to do it than copying contents to the right title and making a redirect? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:38, 23 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+I would hope that the Battlestar Wiki strives to be free of slander so I am requesting you remove the parts of Merv's posting in this thread:
-: You should see a "move" tab on the top of each page.  Just click that and enter in a new title... Thanks! -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 17:48, 24 Aug 2005 (EDT)
-:: I find that I use the Move page tab when there's a page that has good information but has a typo or other inaccuracy in its title, such as the Home episode pages. When there is a redundant page with little to no additional info as compared to the main page (like Zarek Rocks' recent additions), I'll move manually what data was useful to the primary page, then add the redirect tag in the redundant page so that, in case someone else thinks of that same idea, that placeholder page will redirect them anyway. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:27, 24 Aug 2005 (EDT)
-== Character Pages... ==
+http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources_talk:Correspondence_with_Jim_Iaccino
-I wasn't sure where to drop this, so I put it here... I thought about putting it in the update talk, but that didn't seem right, either. I wonder if we shouldn't standardize how the Character pages are laid out (aside from the [[Template:Character Data]], I mean). For instance, [[Lee Adama]]'s looks really sharp. Notice it's got the contents at the top, then his Bio (the title of which might be haggled over later Biography vs. Biographical Notes or whatever), which ties in nicely to the Character Data box. On the other hand, if a page is too short to have or organized such that it doesn't have contents, that might look a little odd (Cf. [[User:Day|Day]]).
+Where he claims that I called Jim's workplace ( I did not and he admits he was "voicing it as a possibility as I have my suspicions. It's actually probably nothing.")
-On the other hand, we could do something like [[Aaron Doral]]'s page with the intro paragraph to kind of act as that spacer in lieu of the contents listing. However, in cases where you ''do'' have a contents listing this looks, to my eye, not as sharp (Cf. [[Agathon, Karl C.]] which will soon be moved by me to [[Karl C. Agathon]] assuming I can figure out how to do it).
+Where he claims I PM'd him an abusive message (I have never PM'd him.)
-So, Joe and anyone else reading this... Whatcha think? Should we do without the intro and go straight into the Bio with a level 2 heading so that our longer write-ups look sharper? Should we have that intro so that our longer write-ups look less sharp, but our shorter ones look more sharp? Or should we change this based on length, so that there's an intro paragraph if it's too short for contents, but no intro paragraph when it gets long enough for one?
+Where he claims I expressed a desire to "anally rape" him (I certainly have never expressed such a desire.)
-'''OR''' is my aesthetic sense telling me wrong and you guys like things I think are "less sharp" and so we should go with some otehr scheme entirely? --[[User:Day|Day]] 01:51, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
+Where he claims I sent YOU a threatening e-mail (I'm sure you realise this is false.)
-:We had the same idea, day. I've started a project page at [[Battlestar Wiki:Characters]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 04:00, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
+These claims are clearly slander and have no place on your website.  The fact that he made up a fictitious PM ((the PM "yeah I am Ribzy you frakhead and I'm going to crucify you!", was a dead giveaway...) Should tell you the depths he will sink to support his slander.
-::Wonderous! I'm going to move my character-based project notes from my User page to that project page. Collaboration and communication please me. --[[User:Day|Day]] 04:16, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-==Deletions==
+Thank you, take care and control.
-Joe, could you either examine the move requests at [[Battlestar Wiki:Characters]] and assist us with moves to article titles already occupied with redirects, or enable me to delete the relevant redirects myself?  --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 04:53, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-: I'll aid you as needed.  Good project BTW. :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:05, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-==Spoiler Policy==
-I'm concerned that the discussion and vote on [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Spoiler Policy]] have wide participation, so as to provide a legitimate result. Would you consider advertising it in the site notice for a week or so? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 04:53, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-: Will do. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:07, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-==Ban request==
-Joe, I humbly request that you ban user "Philwelch", if you see fit to do so.  On Wikipedia.org, he keeps flaming the Cylon and Battlestar Galactica pages, adamant in the belief that "12 Cylon Models" includes Centurions leaving only 11 humanoid ones (nonesensical).  He's counterproductive and often makes unsubstantiated jumps of logic.  Please, instill the fear of God in him.--Ricimer 31 Aug, 2005
-:Oh, let him be. It's not like the issue is cut and dried. Can't we just make a note of the controversy and leave it? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 13:58, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-==Image Thumbs==
-Can we change the background color of image thumbs to black? The yellow links don't show up very well against white, currently. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:04, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
-: Planning on some cosmetic changes anyway. So I'll get right on it. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 16:29, 2 September 2005 (EDT)